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Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:34:00 -
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The last bit of consequence was the T3 rebalance. Citing a post CCP made about looking into a nerf, someone asked the CSM what they thought. Ripard and Chitsa agreed that cloaky T3s are overpowered in their present configuration, and Chitsa added that boosting T3s are unbalanced as well. I said I'd like it if they scaled worse, so they were a good small gang option but HAMgus were less attractive. James said that he thought the T2 cruiser balancing should come before any serious T3 rebalance, as the big issue for k-space is how the two ship classes interact. Chitsa lamented the potential effect on W-space income if T3 demand was nerfed, and mynnna suggested that the T3s would fit better in the utility role they were advertised for. We could have gone on for longer (and the conversation continued after), but the time demanded we move on. Link: http://themittani.com/features/csm-8-first-town-hall
Can someone explain to me why our representatives think cloaky T3's are OP?
Also, i see very little activity from Chitsa and James on these forums. Does anyone know if either of these two have a list somewhere, of features/changes that they are trying to get CCP to implement? 3 years 6 expansions: incursions, the venture, 3 BCGÇÖs and 3 destroyers... Is this all you are capable of CCP? |
Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:32:00 -
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I see what you are saying but i don't buy that argument. Yeah it's a good heavy tackler but without the support of a fleet a cloaky T3 can't do much. Two drakes could probably kill a solo cloaky Proteus in under 2 mins. 3 years 6 expansions: incursions, the venture, 3 BCGÇÖs and 3 destroyers... Is this all you are capable of CCP? |
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:24:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:Chitsa Jason wrote:I have probably expressed myself in wrong manner on CSM Townhall. I think the cloaky T3s are OP due to the nullification subsystem. I disagree. It's not actually that hard to decloak and point a cloaky nulli t3 if you have ceptor pilots who know what they're doing. The intercalated subsystem on the other hand...that one is bank.
It's more of a problem in Nul sec i think, because you spawn 15km away from a gate making it harder for an interceptor to catch you.
What now? |
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:10:00 -
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Why? It's very valuable to get cloaky eyes on a POS or enemy fleet without being dragged into a bubble.
I'm open minded though... If CCP made it like you suggested then they would have to give some additional benefit to using the nullifyer or it would end up being unused like 70% of the existing subsystem.
What do you think the current problem is? What now? |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:02:00 -
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I really wish using T3s as logi ships was more viable but the limited range prevent that. Cloaky logi FTW! Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:57:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Rek Seven wrote:I really wish using T3s as logi ships was more viable but the limited range prevent that. Cloaky logi FTW! That would make T3 OP actually. The T3 shouldn't be better than T2 logi at being a logi ship.
Why do you assume that the T3 would be better than T2 logi?
I'm thinking the T3 logi sub should have slightly less rep power as it does now but it should get a bonus to range to enable it to rep at around 20-25km (i.e. point range). Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:40:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Onomerous wrote:Rek Seven wrote:I really wish using T3s as logi ships was more viable but the limited range prevent that. Cloaky logi FTW! That would make T3 OP actually. The T3 shouldn't be better than T2 logi at being a logi ship. Why do you assume that the T3 would be better than T2 logi? I'm thinking the T3 logi sub should have slightly less rep power as it does now but it should get a bonus to range to enable it to rep at around 20-25km (i.e. point range). Cloaky T3 with Logi range? You don't see a problem with that? No, it doesn't need a range boost. It is fine as it is right now.
Yep your right it's perfectly fine, it's not like it's a completely underused sub or anything Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:17:00 -
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Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
who the **** are Chitsa and James? Surely they the only two eve online players worth listening to.
The nominated CSM wormhole representatives... They're not the authority on everything wormhole related but their opinion and activity certainly matters. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:03:00 -
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Shield blobs? Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:45:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Shield blobs? Try shield fitting proteuses. I would tell you the results but I want some free killmails first.
Hull tank blobs then?
Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 08:15:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Bamsey Amraa wrote:T3 are overpovered? Then skill it and use it. They are too expensive for you? Screw low/null/hi and come live in WH there is many isk for you. WH are too hardcore for you ? Then stop yelling about how T3s are overpowered.
I pay in ISK for all my lost T3s ( include isk for plex when i must again skill the same subsystem) Want more fun still there? LOLOL. It doesn't take any skill to sit on a wormhole and press F1 for a tech 3. -Signed, a person with more kills in a day than you have in an entire month last three months.
So you have moved on from T3 brawls and your now ganking T1 cruisers in null sec... Congratulations but we don't care!
I don't know why you are even posting in the wormhole form if you hate what goes on in W-space and have nothing constructive to add.
I used to have a lot of respect for Aquila before this prick came along. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:26:00 -
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Congratulations on being that much of a tard that your corp makes you put a disclaimer in your bio.
Stay on topic. Putting work in since 2010. |
Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:42:00 -
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Overpowered or under-powered, it's all relative. You can't make a fit on eft, compare it to other ships and say use that to make an argument as to whether the ship needs a nerf. PVP in eve doesn't work like that as we are not all running around soloing each other.
It's not a game of rock, paper scissors when that cloaky proteus is only pointing you so his 5 friends can come and get on the killmail. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:49:00 -
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Sandslinger wrote:It always comes back to the dreads. Exhale used to run large Abso gangs, guessing they stopped when they realised how much more vulnerable cmd is to dreads vs Cruiser Hulls.
Until dreads are rebalanced in wh close combat, there isn't much point discussing alternatives to T3.
Dreads have already be "balanced" and they have nothing to do with whether T3's need a nerf or not... But let's not start the dread blapping debate again. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:59:00 -
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When people use dreadnoughts to alpha (insta-pop) sub-capitals. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:57:00 -
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Nah it's nothing like being able to cyno in 100 titans to lay waist to your enemy. It's more like a tier 3 BC shooting a webbed and painted t1 frigate... Not a problem at all.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18500507 did i cry a little after that happened? Sure. Would i want to take the dread blap ability away from those guys? No. Putting work in since 2010. |
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